From the Leadermorphosis podcast

This is a transcript of my interview with Frederic Laloux, author of the book Reinventing Organisations. You can listen to the interview here: Web / Apple podcast / Spotify or watch it on YouTube.

L Gill: I was reflecting earlier about the fact that your book, Reinventing Organisations, came out in 2014. And six years later, for me the world feels like it’s changed a lot.

And I feel like the this new ways of working movement, I guess you could call it, feels like it’s evolving, maturing. …


Two examples of new pay models from betterplace lab and Decathlon Belgium

This is a blog summary of a live streamed event hosted by Nadjeschda Taranczewski, co-founder of ConsciousU, about money, inner work and new pay. You can watch the event recording here. The two speakers were:

  • Joana Breidenbach, founder of betterplace and betterplace lab, who six years ago began a process of her stepping back as founder/boss. She and her fifteen colleagues have developed a deep process of setting their salaries together once a year.
  • Sébastien Cauchy is HR manager and change consultant at Decathlon Belgium. …


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Some examples and food for thought about compensation in self-managing organisations

Back in 2017, I wrote a blog about three things to consider when thinking of moving towards self-set salaries. Since then, I’ve continued to gather examples of principles and practices from different organisations that I often share with people by email whenever they ask for resources on this topic. Here is what I have so far and if you know of any other examples, please do share so I can add to the list!

1. Corporate Rebels’ guide to self-set salaries

The Corporate Rebels website is always a good first stop when you’re looking for examples of companies doing things differently. …


Illustration by Sophie Wainwright

Why listening is an ability we all need to practise if we want more self-managing teams

The following is an extract from the book ‘Moose Heads on the Table: Stories About Self-Managing Organisations from Sweden’ by Karin Tenelius and Lisa Gill.

“Listening is at the source of all great leadership. It is a core skill, not only for leadership, but for all domains of professional mastery.”
– Otto Scharmer, Presencing Institute

One of the reasons listening is extremely valuable is because it starts to build a culture of psychological safety — a term Amy Edmondson defines in her book “The Fearless Organisation” as “as a climate in which people are comfortable expressing and being themselves”. Of…


From the Leadermorphosis podcast

This is a transcript of my interview with Bill Fischer, Professor of Innovation Management at IMD, and Simone Cicero, cofounder of Boundaryless and co-creator of the Platform Design Toolkit, for the Leadermorphosis podcast. We talk about what they have learned from years of studying and collaborating with the Chinese company Haier Group, whose Rendanheyi organisational model has been praised internationally as one of the most revolutionary management ideas of the 21st century. …


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Three approaches to take you in the direction of greater autonomy

A blog by Lisa Gill and Helen Sanderson

One thing we’ve learned is to be cautious about using the term self-management, or any technical term. It can create a knee-jerk reaction, especially from middle managers who feel if we work towards self-management, it will mean I’m out of a job — why would turkeys welcome Christmas? Frederic Laloux recommends using ‘story over concept’, in other words, using human language that describes what could be possible if we explore a different way of working and what excites you about it.

We’re currently working with some organisations at the moment who aren’t…


Plus our 4 favourite tips and tricks

In the first few weeks of the pandemic, some of my colleagues and I from Greaterthan facilitated 90-minute online trainings in how to run great remote meetings for over 800+ people all over the world. Here are some insights on the biggest challenges we have heard people are wrestling with, and a few of our favourite tips and tricks to address them.

The top two challenges people shared with us over and over again were:

  1. How do we create engagement in our remote meetings?
  2. The same people always talk, and there are always people who are quiet. …


An interview for the Leadermorphosis podcast

Skeena Rathor has played a key role in developing the Extinction Rebellion DNA and co-leads the Vision Sensing Circle. I talked to her for the Leadermorphosis podcast about how the movement is evolving, the work they’ve been doing structurally (using Holacracy and Sociocracy) and relationally (working with Miki Kashtan), and XR’s AloneTogether campaign in response to the Coronavirus outbreak.

Here are some highlights…

Extinction Rebellion and being Alone Together in the Coronavirus crisis

  • In response to the Coronavirus outbreak, Skeena is experiencing for the first time visioning as something that is also about “contextualising and re-contextualising what the present moment is.”
  • She also shared the challenge of a community of…


From the Leadermorphosis podcast

This is a transcript of my interview with Amy Edmondson for the Leadermorphosis podcast. Amy is the Novartis Professor of Leadership and Management at Harvard Business School and author of the books “Teaming” and “The Fearless Organisation.” We talk about her journey of researching psychological safety and teaming, as well as the paper she co-wrote with Mike Lee about self-managing organisations. You can listen to the podcast episode here.

Lisa Gill:
I think most listeners will perhaps know you from your book “Teaming” (2012) and your research on psychological safety. It’s been a number of years since you’ve been working with…


Photo by Ian on Unsplash

Self-managing organisations, as the Corporate Rebels remind us in this article, are nothing new. However, lately the idea is becoming more trendy and attractive to mainstream audiences. As always, with hype comes misunderstandings. It hurts my soul a little when I read or hear about examples of organisations who have tried to implement self-management and failed, declaring it a dangerous fad and thereby potentially discouraging other organisations from experimenting themselves.

This is a shame because there are many examples of organisations where self-management has worked wonderfully well. Perhaps most well known is Buurtzorg, a nursing organisation in the Netherlands with…

Lisa Gill

Founder of Reimaginaire, trainer and coach with Tuff Leadership Training, host of Leadermorphosis podcast.

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